Why is Miracle Grow junk?


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Here is the thing, go to any large nursery and look above their plants. You will see a tube and that tube is attached to a fertilizer tank. So if you buy annuals or vegetables you are buying things that have been grown with the likes of Miricle Grow. If it didn't work and work well they wouldn't use it. If they didn't use it then their plants would look like what the average gardener has in his or her garden a month after they plant their previous beautiful healthy plants. That is the answer for all those that ask why their plants don't look as nice as they did when they bought them. A nursery can grow 50,000 beautiful healthy plants but the average person struggles to grow a handful of plants. As far as anything else, as I have said, no matter how often or how loud you say something it doesn't make it true. To get straight facts before turning on your computer call your local cooperative extension. The internet is full of misinformation and personal opinion. Yes, this is my personal opinion but go to a nursery, look at their spring plants, and decide for yourself whether Miricle Grow works or doesn't work.
Having worked in a nursery for many years, I have to say I have never seen a fertiliser tank with a tube attached. The internet is indeed full of misinformation and personal opinion. My own personal opinion is formed by years of experience, not reading the internet.
It is this experience that some of us older and more experienced gardeners try very hard to share with those who still have much to learn and much time to learn it. It is what we like to think of as being helpful.

'' Miracle grow''
In the UK amongst the growers I know, none of them would entertain using this particular rubbish.
 
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Don Perry, "sheep tea" is simply sheep manure in water. I use "steer tea" for my vegetable plants because in Texas there are a lot more steers than sheep!
Just put about 3" of manure in the bottom of a 5 gal bucket, add about 3 to 4 gallons of water, stir, and before using, stir again. The manure tends to settle, so you have to keep stirring to make it dissolve. It's a very mild fertilizer so you don't have to worry about burning the plants.
 
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I totally agree with Tetters. Leaving aside ones qualifications and all that. We as gardeners or garden or plant lovers, enjoy sharing with others our joys and up's & downs of our hobby or profession. I for instance learned what perhaps is known as the correct way. However. We all at some point deviate from the 'straight & narrow' and do things our way. If it works for ME then, I will do it or use it.

Personally. I so often disagree with all this feeding of plants. I would never dash a fellow gardeners method and say. I am right and you are wrong. Commercial growing is so much more scientific and COSTLY. We home gardeners have to watch the pennies and continue to enjoy gardening and plants.
 
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I have used Miracle Grow in the past and had very good results. I have been told to throw that JUNK away. WHY?
If it wasn't Chuck who told you to throw it away, it was probably I.
It's a poisonous salt, which will kill your soil.
Why would you think that anything BLUE would be a good idea to put on your food?
It also kills mycorrhizal fungus, which benefits your plants, because of the high levels of phosphate.
 
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Here is the thing, go to any large nursery and look above their plants. You will see a tube and that tube is attached to a fertilizer tank. So if you buy annuals or vegetables you are buying things that have been grown with the likes of Miricle Grow.
Yup. Get it home and it dies.
I grow from seed, & my plants are healthier, cope better with adverse weather & temperatures, and are less inviting to pests and disease.
 
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I totally agree with Tetters. Leaving aside ones qualifications and all that. We as gardeners or garden or plant lovers, enjoy sharing with others our joys and up's & downs of our hobby or profession. I for instance learned what perhaps is known as the correct way. However. We all at some point deviate from the 'straight & narrow' and do things our way. If it works for ME then, I will do it or use it.

Personally. I so often disagree with all this feeding of plants. I would never dash a fellow gardeners method and say. I am right and you are wrong. Commercial growing is so much more scientific and COSTLY. We home gardeners have to watch the pennies and continue to enjoy gardening and plants.
I get yields as good as farmers, study organic methods like a geek, and it seems that the only extra cost is labour intensiveness, e.g. you can't autofeed through a hose anything with lumps in it.
 
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Above mentioned "Sheep Tea". The Amish go about on their fields and use "Cow Tea". it is sprayed from the back end of a wagon as the horses pull the wagon about. If the wind blows just right it can be a horrid drifting smell.

Kind of humorous someone mentioning Blue Dye on their foods, when people love that red velvet cake which has a 1/4 cup of yucky red dye in it. I myself can taste that type of dye in foods.

Having supervised many people over the 55 years in management I learned that all ages and experiences can add to conversations, or can trigger the outcome to solve a problem. It is important to value the opinion of others, not necessarily embrace and change your life over it, but value it.
 
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View attachment 77927 View attachment 77928 I would be very interested to hear what comments might be made on these two products - especially from @headfullofbees, and @Chuck.

Also, this product View attachment 77929(pretty) please :shy:
On the Tomorite, I have never seen it, but, it appears to be a good fertilizer, a low NPK ratio which leads me to believe it is a natural product. It is not a high yield NPK which is good. The only negative I can see at this time is that it is made by Scotts. Whether or not this is the same Scotts that make much of the garbage like Weed and Feed here in the US I don't know. About the Osmocote. Of all of the synthetic fertilizers Osmocote is the only one I can think of that I would use if I couldn't get an organic fertilizer. It is a true slow release fertilizer and although it has a high nitrogen content most of this nitrogen is tied up and unavailable to plants immediately and slowly leaches into the soil, thus providing long lasting nutrition. Before organics were available here I used it extensively. The Blood Fish and Bone appears to be just what it says it is. Blood Fish and Bone. I have never seen this exact product. Here we have Blood Meal, dried and liquid fish, and, fish emulsion, plus we have Bone Meal but not all three in one package. There is NOT anything artificial or engineered or altered about this product as far as I can tell from my limited research. I could use all three products. These are a far, far better than Miracle Grow.
 
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Thank you @Chuck for taking the time to check these out. Here in the UK the Blood fish & bone is widely used by the experienced gardeners when planting shrubs and trees etc. The Osmocote is one I always use in my compost mixes, and I use it because it was choice for the nursery where I used to be propagating shrubs and climbers. It`s the slow release that is favourite with all the growers I know in this neck of the woods. I choose to use it too while growing plants on, when the organic stuff would be more difficult to add to the potting mix - that goes directly into the garden where the plants end up. Tomorite is a favourite for tomatoes and flowering plants, and although Zigs likes to knock up liquid feed with the comfrey or stinging nettle plants, he will usually settle for this instead because his home made stuff stinks so bad....... that`s for when he thinks I`m not looking.

I am amazed that you don`t have access to Blood fish & bone there, and beginning to realise just how different things are between the USA and the UK.
We seem to often read how much of the ground is contaminated there by various chemicals and such that have leeched out to waterways.
Gardeners there seem to have to check with the authorities quite often to check the soil quality etc.

By the way, our Tomorite is made by Levington!
 
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I go with IPM techniques. Integrated Pest Management also works for fertilizing. Use both and get the best of both worlds. Oh and FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS!
 
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Thank you @Chuck for taking the time to check these out. Here in the UK the Blood fish & bone is widely used by the experienced gardeners when planting shrubs and trees etc. The Osmocote is one I always use in my compost mixes, and I use it because it was choice for the nursery where I used to be propagating shrubs and climbers. It`s the slow release that is favourite with all the growers I know in this neck of the woods. I choose to use it too while growing plants on, when the organic stuff would be more difficult to add to the potting mix - that goes directly into the garden where the plants end up. Tomorite is a favourite for tomatoes and flowering plants, and although Zigs likes to knock up liquid feed with the comfrey or stinging nettle plants, he will usually settle for this instead because his home made stuff stinks so bad....... that`s for when he thinks I`m not looking.

I am amazed that you don`t have access to Blood fish & bone there, and beginning to realise just how different things are between the USA and the UK.
We seem to often read how much of the ground is contaminated there by various chemicals and such that have leeched out to waterways.
Gardeners there seem to have to check with the authorities quite often to check the soil quality etc.

By the way, our Tomorite is made by Levington!
There are numerous things available where you are that isn't available here. For instance Hoof and Horn. For a good, quick nitrogen source all we have is blood meal. And 99.9% of the home gardeners do not have access to any type of manures, except for commercial organic fertilizers. About the soil quality and checking with the authorities, here in Texas there are NO authoritative rules or laws or restrictions, AFAIK, nor in any states. People just use what is available and unfortunately most gardeners are stuck with the likes of Miracle Grow and Scotts products. I am sure that this is because of the massive advertising that these companies do. Organic gardening was unheard of 30 years ago. All there was, was chemicals. Only in the last 20 years or so has there been any interest or knowledge of organic gardening. Texas, I am proud to say is leading the US effort to change from chemicals to organics. There are many large commercial farms that are changing from chemicals to organics. Plus, many golf courses are also changing. They are finding that in the long term, organics are actually less expensive. I can only hope that this course of action continues.
 
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Well done Texas !! I was totally unaware of the situation there, and find it quite alarming. There were some mistakes made here too - for example, when the hedges were removed to make the fields bigger. Happily, miles and miles of these hedgerows are being reinstated, and the birds and other wildlife benefits. We also have areas around farming land that is left for insects and other wildlife to live and proliferate. This is so important. Good grazing is necessary for the farm animals, and results in fantastic manure which, when rotted a bit, improves the land and increases the crops - it is a circle of benefit that mankind generally needs to heed, otherwise the poison will result in dire consequences.
 
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Millions and millions of acres of farmland are treated with liquid fertilizer. Could certainly be a polluter but a soil destroyer?
 
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Millions and millions of acres of farmland are treated with liquid fertilizer. Could certainly be a polluter but a soil destroyer?
Yes, a soil destroyer. And here is why. All chemical fertilizers leave a little mineral salt behind after use. These salts build up over time and kills the soil microbes and burns up the organic matter in the soil. After years of unregulated use the soil is dead and the only reason that plants can continue to grow is because of continued use of chemical fertilizers. More and more fertilizers are required to maintain the same amount of plant growth, until finally it costs too much money to maintain this growth. The result of this is why there are literally thousands of what is called "burned out farms" for sale across the US. This use of chemical fertilizers, both liquid and granular, can be, and is mitigated by methods such as no till farming and the use of carbohydrates. These methods maintain microbial life in the soil but at a monetary cost.
 
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Tomorite likes to kid on it's organic with its "added seaweed," but it isn't, it's petro-gro; if it was organic, Levington would have it all over the bottle.

It was introduced in the sixties, when more Brits grew tomatoes in gro-bags, which people put on their gardens after the tomatoes had finished, giving the compost 6 months to recover.
It's not in the same class as Miracle-Gro, but it's far from organic, as is growmore.

The Osmocote Pro, I've never seen before, but the NPK numbers shout armaments.
Just had a quick look at the makers, ICL, and it's as bad as Miracle-Gro.

Blood, fish & bone is organic, fish meal, fish bone, & afaik fish blood, is my favoured bought fertiliser (I now mostly grow and forage my fertiliser, comfrey & seaweed)
The fish bonemeal supplies a little nitrogen and a good, but not harmful, dose of long-lasting phosphate; the fish blood supplies good levels of nitrogen, & the fishmeal supplies a decent level of potash.
It's only drawback is that it can attract predatory animals, who smell it & burrow to look for dead animals.
 
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