Why is Miracle Grow junk?


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I have used Miracle Grow in the past and had very good results. I have been told to throw that JUNK away. WHY?
 
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They probably read something on the internet or a magazine. If you say it loud enough and often enough it must be true. There could also be an agenda from a rival company to start a miss information campaign. Few people will bother to look into the issue.
 
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I will go back to previous posts and look there , then ask a pointed question of the person that told me to throw it away.
 
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My wife because of her disability, buys a lot of stuff on shopping channels. For this reason I'm aware and have used this stuff for years.
It works fine, but is expensive. £25 for 2.5kg plus postage.

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Never seen that over here , this side of the pond. Miracle grow is a USA product.
 
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I have used Miracle Grow in the past and had very good results. I have been told to throw that JUNK away. WHY?
The main reason is because IF you are a serious gardener you strive to build up your soil. And a built up soil has lots of organic material in it. MG destroys the organic matter and when this happens the soil microbes which break down the organic matter are destroyed as well. When soil microbes are destroyed the only thing which feeds the plant is MG. Organic fertilizers feed the soil, not the plant. And in doing so in a natural way you will have far fewer problems such as diseases and pests. MG is not a forgiving product either. Use too much and you damage or kill your plant. Use to little and the plant gets very little nutrition. MG leaches out of the soil very easily, especially in container grown plants. If you use the same soil year after year the soil dies and you have to use more fertilizer to make up for the lack of soil microbes. And more fertilizer the next year and on and on it goes. Have you ever heard the term "burned out farmland?" The soil is dead because of the use of chemical fertilizers of which MG is. There is a scientific term for a difference between organic fertilizers and chemical fertilizers. It is called Cation Exchange Capacity. This is a rather complicated subject but I will try to simplify it. Organic fertilizers have positive charged ions called cations. Chemical fertilizers have anions and are negatively charged. Cations cling to soil which means it doesn't leach away like anions in chemical fertilizers do. This is why chemical fertilizers have such high NPK numbers and organic fertilizers have such low numbers. So actually when you buy MG you are paying for something that will not and cannot be used because it leaches away everytime it rains or you water. When organic fertilizers are used on a continuous basis year after year you actually need to buy less and less fertilizer.

I just read you last post. I am probably the guy who told you to throw it away. I hope the above is reasons are enough to persuade you to throw it away.
 
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I fully endorse what Chuck has written and it should answer this question to anyone who wants to know. This stuff is very good for the bin.
Chuck it out (sorry for the pun) :giggle:

Horse poo is good (y)
 
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Thank you for your very informative post . I have ceased using MG on my raised containers and will use up what is left on my pasture land. Once won't hurt it and its all weeds anyway.:p No cattle, no crops, no chickens or turkeys. just me n my new tractor.
Thanks, Tetters, for the horse poop tip. I have some cow manure and horse manure, available from The Agriplex here . I think I can get them to dump a load right in my pickup.
 
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About 50 years ago an old nurseryman told the wife and i fertilizer is what keeps him in business. i.e. kills enough plants to keep his business thriving. When he wanted to push a plant's growth it was done with sheep tea.
 
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Thank you for your very informative post . I have ceased using MG on my raised containers and will use up what is left on my pasture land. Once won't hurt it and its all weeds anyway.:p No cattle, no crops, no chickens or turkeys. just me n my new tractor.
Thanks, Tetters, for the horse poop tip. I have some cow manure and horse manure, available from The Agriplex here . I think I can get them to dump a load right in my pickup.
Be very careful of any cattle or horse manures. It is very possible that this manure is contaminated with Picloram, a chemical herbicide used on hay fields. The animal eats the hay and the chemical passes through it. This chemical persists in soil for months if not years and will destroy any plants you may wish to grow except grasses. Most commercial hay growers use this product. A simple test is to fill a bucket half full of the manure and then finish filling it with water. Let it stand for a couple of days stirring occasionally. Then pour this liquid over a weed such as a dandelion. If, after 72 hours the weed shows no detrimental signs it is safe to use. But, getting manure from different animals all in one batch complicates this little test as one animal's manure may be OK and another animals manure contaminated. You've gotta be careful using raw manures in the US.
 
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I prefer to use natural stuff. although, at some house auctions my husband will bring home some of the miracle grow he has gotten in just a box lot for really cheap, so we use it. Cheap as in $2.00 for many boxes.
 
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I prefer to use natural stuff. although, at some house auctions my husband will bring home some of the miracle grow he has gotten in just a box lot for really cheap, so we use it. Cheap as in $2.00 for many boxes.
Well, there goes another otherwise useful and informative thread @Esther Knapicius :muted:
 
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I have a dislike for garden/plant chemicals. Recently I decided to treat the Peace Lily and the Maranta, both plants proud possessions of my late dear wife. She had cared for them for about thirty years... As Mentioned. I am not a fan of chemicals, so a careful study of the directions for use, and a re-read. Correct preparation and here goes. Here goes!!!!!!! and the plants went. Within a couple of days, these long-lived plants popped their clogs. So from now on. Chemicals and me, are even more distanted.
 
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You gotta be careful of where you get your hay/straw/manure


Excerpt:

Killer Compost Keeps On Killing: ‘I Feel Completely Violated’
In fall 2011, I picked up a double load of composted cow manure from a local farmer. I diligently spread it into my new garden beds and around my young fruit trees and blackberries. After doing so, I noticed the leaves on my blackberries started to curl a bit, but I wasn’t too worried at that point.

Come spring, however, almost everything I had planted in my garden beds exhibited bizarre growth — if it grew at all.


I was completely perplexed until I realized the manure was the only constant between all of the plants that were having issues. I called my friend Jo, who had used some of the same manure, and she, too, had damage to her crops.

Googling terms such as “manure,” “distorted growth” and “leaf curl” finally led me to discover that my supposedly organic amendment had been contaminated by a persistent herbicide known as aminopyralid.

This stuff is an ecological WMD, and we have Dow AgroSciences to thank for it, along with the many extension offices that recommend it for treating spiny amaranth and other broadleaf weeds. After a field has been sprayed, it’s supposedly safe for livestock to graze on. But after being eaten, digested, excreted and composted — even for years — aminopyralid will still destroy plants.

I feel completely violated. My ground was poisoned, about $1,000 worth of perennials and veggies were ruined, and I still have a pile of toxic manure sitting in my yard. The cattle farmer refunded the $60 I’d spent on his manure, and also confirmed that he had indeed sprayed his fields in the summer with “Grazon,” an herbicide that contains aminopyralid. He had no idea it would go through the cows and ruin the manure — but he does now. I’m telling anyone who will listen: Watch your back. There’s hardly anything safe anymore, especially if it has come in contact with Big Ag.

David Goodman
Ocala, Florida


 
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Here is the thing, go to any large nursery and look above their plants. You will see a tube and that tube is attached to a fertilizer tank. So if you buy annuals or vegetables you are buying things that have been grown with the likes of Miricle Grow. If it didn't work and work well they wouldn't use it. If they didn't use it then their plants would look like what the average gardener has in his or her garden a month after they plant their previous beautiful healthy plants. That is the answer for all those that ask why their plants don't look as nice as they did when they bought them. A nursery can grow 50,000 beautiful healthy plants but the average person struggles to grow a handful of plants. As far as anything else, as I have said, no matter how often or how loud you say something it doesn't make it true. To get straight facts before turning on your computer call your local cooperative extension. The internet is full of misinformation and personal opinion. Yes, this is my personal opinion but go to a nursery, look at their spring plants, and decide for yourself whether Miricle Grow works or doesn't work.
 
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Here is the thing, go to any large nursery and look above their plants. You will see a tube and that tube is attached to a fertilizer tank. So if you buy annuals or vegetables you are buying things that have been grown with the likes of Miricle Grow. If it didn't work and work well they wouldn't use it. If they didn't use it then their plants would look like what the average gardener has in his or her garden a month after they plant their previous beautiful healthy plants. That is the answer for all those that ask why their plants don't look as nice as they did when they bought them. A nursery can grow 50,000 beautiful healthy plants but the average person struggles to grow a handful of plants. As far as anything else, as I have said, no matter how often or how loud you say something it doesn't make it true. To get straight facts before turning on your computer call your local cooperative extension. The internet is full of misinformation and personal opinion. Yes, this is my personal opinion but go to a nursery, look at their spring plants, and decide for yourself whether Miricle Grow works or doesn't work.
No one has said it didn't work. It works fine IF USED CORRECTLY. What everyone is saying is to look at all of the negatives when using this stuff. A serious pollutant and a soil destroyer. These are proven facts. And it is not just Miracle Grow, it is ALL chemical fertilizers.
 

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