Is anybody else seeing signs of climate change?

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I have my own, tiny experiment regarding climate change. There is a certain day a year I pay close attention to since 1979. On that day, was my first wedding. So since then, of course I remember. I also remember the weather on that day. And since 1979 that certain day, the weather still is the same, identical, same sky, same temp. same puffy white clouds and the prettiest blue sky, same everything. so from that tiny little piece of information I will say, NOPE, have not seen climate change at all. Say what you will, to me there is no climate change.
 
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Not too long ago people were raving about how China was taking the lead in going green; I thought that was crazy talk.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-45640706

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The research, carried out by green campaigners CoalSwarm, suggests that 259 gigawatts of new capacity are under development in China.

The authors say this is the same capacity to produce electricity as the entire US coal fleet.

The study says government attempts to cancel many plants have failed.

According to this study, there was a surge in new coal projects approved at provincial level in China between 2014 and 2016. This happened because of a decentralisation programme that shifted authority over coal plant construction approvals to local authorities.

The report says that at present China has 993 gigawatts of coal power capacity, but the approved new plants would increase this by 25%.
 
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It would seem that China needs a government that actually takes control of the country and what happens in it, whether the control of coal projects is run by local authorities or not. What is happening there is destroying what other nations on our planet are trying to achieve.
 
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I Personally believe As the world Changes So does the Climate to Match. Cover the Planet in trees & The Climate would be vary different. Or Cut Down all the Trees And See What that Will Do..............Pump out A few More Billion Babe Humans & that will Change Our climate.............Its Plain as Day to Me that We have a input in the weather & Climate , Just as we have changed the Plant we live on.
 
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I Personally believe As the world Changes So does the Climate to Match. Cover the Planet in trees & The Climate would be vary different. Or Cut Down all the Trees And See What that Will Do..............Pump out A few More Billion Babe Humans & that will Change Our climate.............Its Plain as Day to Me that We have a input in the weather & Climate , Just as we have changed the Plant we live on.
As I've said before, I'm a "climate denier"; however, I agree with everything you've said. We humans are and do have an effect on the climate as do all other organisms on earth.

All I "deny" (or more accurately, disagree with...) is that it's all bad. I definitely disagree with the 350.org movement, that's just crazy. This is such a large and complicated subject, which I've read quite a bit about, so I just can't agree with all the scary stories being forecast'ed by the crazy activists. I've been hearing them for years and much of them have already been shown wrong.

However, it is a very important area for scientific study and wish one day this will leave the political arena, but that will just mean something else has take its place...Can't win for losing:D
 
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My input on this, and just a personal opinion.

Without any doubt, the climate is changing. I suspect though that this is mostly due to a natural climate cycle. There is evidence to support this. Anyone that has read my post on one of the other threads will realise that I am interested in the Viking culture. What has this to do with climate change, you may (or may not!) ask? Well, if we look back to their time, we will see that there is evidence that they were growing grain crops on Greenland from about the year 1000 AD or thereabouts. That would suggest that the climate at that time was warmer than it is now.

Around that time in what is now the UK, they founded communities by sailing their Longships up waterways that are now so shallow they can be walked across. That also suggests that water levels were higher than today. Probably because the Polar Ice caps were not as large.

By the time the 1300's had arrived, it was no longer possible for their descendants to grow crops on Greenland due to the climate having become too cold.

As the years passed, things did become colder. This continued until the 1800's.I'm not quite sure of the exact year, but if my memory serves, the last time the River Thames froze over was in the early 1800's. The period between around 1350 and 1850 is sometimes known as the "Mini Ice Age." Then, things warmed up again, they are continuing to do so today, and probably will for another few hundred years.

Are humans contributing to the climate change? Well, as someone wrote, everything on the planet affects the climate. Possibly, humans do it more than most things, due to stupidity. Theres are good examples regarding this. "Greenies" consider Carbon Dioxide to be a greenhouse gas, and therefore a major influence on Climate Change. Assuming that to be true, then why do we have catalytic converters on cars? Its estimated that the fitment of these increases each cars CO2 emissions by around 80%!!!!!

Back when I was a child, people walked to the shops, and did their shopping in the village I lived. Nowadays, they drive to some big store outside of town. Stores that quite often are built on prime farmland! As children, we walked or cycled to school. Nowadays, it seems that parents have to do "school runs" in their cars. All of this adds to pollution, not to mention declines in health!
 
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I saw something so odd in the Netherlands, the winter over there was so dang short and warm it felt more like a really chilly autumn! The strangest thing was that things had already started blooming!!! It was crazy, by February 1st things were so darn green like there was never a winter and blooms were already there. I'm talking about the north!
The climate in the Netherlands is why they grow horticultural stuff for the whole world. Mild, short winters, and long, mild summers with plenty of moisture.
 
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Anyone who has an interest in Agriculture or Horticulture, who is fourty plus years old must notice the climate changing. My experience is as follows; when I was an apprentice Gardener back in the mid 70s, we used to mow the grass for nine months of the year from March through to end of November, after November it was impossible to mow quite simply because it was too wet, frosty or covered in snow, anyway the grass just wasn't growing. Nowadays its not uncommon to see folks cutting grass at any time of the year, it doesn't stop growing, so the winters are becoming warmer and summers hotter, storms are becoming more frequent and more ferocious. I believe its no coincidence that skin cancer is on the increase as the ozone layer breaks down. I may be wrong but I can only go by my experiences for what there worth.
Unfortunately, your opinion and experience on the weather is worth nothing as regards climate. Neither is mine or anyone else's. We only "experience" a sliver of a silver of weather in a sliver of time. Weather is variable everywhere and so is climate, and we have two different words for a good reason. They are different things. The Earth's climate is always cycling from whatever it was to whatever it's going to be. It is never static. There have been several major ice ages, most likely the result of changes in the sun. There are long cycles and short cycles and short cycles within long cycles. Volcanoes are responsible for 95% of air pollution, so when we screw-up the air someplace, it's only a small, local portion of the Earth's surface. Many of our cities with poor air quality have it due to poor circulation in that place due to geography. L.A. and Beijing are two good examples. Others do have poor air quality due to the quantity of people living there. Ten or fifthteen million people living in one city ARE going to generate a lot of waste: air, water, solids, et al. They all qualify as a micro climate, and we should clean-up our act. But we don't affect climate. The sun and geography and the Earth's rotation are responsible for climate. Climate can also be altered by close encounters with asteroids and volcanoes. Tambora gave us the year without a summer in 1815.

As to what's normal, good, or whatever positive characterization you want to use: an ocean-run salmon pickled in alcohol long before the commercial use of mercury tested way over the limit when tested in the 1970's(?). Arsenic is a common contaminant in well water in areas with certain kinds of underground rock. That's normal, ~and completely "natural".

The amount of CO2 has varied widely over the eons, and we are at the lower end of the scale now for reasons unknown. All we really know is that the Earth got along just fine when CO2 was at the other end of the scale. It's not a pollutant, in my opinion. But you know what that's worth...
 
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Here living in a very mild part of the UK I'm not convinced about seeing signs of climate change.
However, "man" is damaging our planet and seemingly never seems to learn!
"Experts" push completely opposing views......:(
 
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:)Not so. Yes, the Chinese and Indians are filling their atmosphere with poisons, and they know that is something that needs to change, but they're torn between the progress of their individual citizens and the accumulation of nasty byproducts. They're between the classic rock and a hard place, third world countries passing through second-rate management on their way to first class. It'll get worse before it gets better, but mostly on their own territories. Gathering more and more people into great cities is a bad idea.

In the USA, as each problem has been identified it has been corrected, mostly. We changed the ways we use mercury, lead, coal, aerosols, gasoline, and hundreds of other elements and materials and processes when we found they had bad effects. Clean-ups are always costly and not always done the best way because of people. Everyone has opinions about everything and as often as not people with dumb opinions get elected and run things their way. California is a really good example in dozens of ways, but we can start with wildfires. Back in the Great Depression, the government began an employment program that organized and cleaned-up the forests to prevent and/or minimize forest fires. It took more than 20-odd years to cut fire roads criss-crossing the vast federal and state forests, and cleaning-up downed-wood, installing watch towers, creating a cadre of state and federal Foresters to oversee tracts to continue the process of keeping the forests orderly. There are always going to be dumb people who are careless with camp fires, and lightening will always exist, but the vast forests need to be divided into reasonably small sections with access pathways cut through so when you need to get a fire crew to a fire there IS a way to do it, timely. The Foresters grade timber and manage the many tracts by selling strategic blocks of timber that's ready for market and using that revenue to clear and clean-up problem areas on a continuing basis. There used to be great fires in lots of places when I was a kid, but not for the last 50-60 years. The mechanisms are in place now for continuous management by professionals. Except in California in the 70's when Jerry Brown became "Governor Moonbeam". The Flower Children didn't like logging because it displaced critters. "Hey! We got a good idea. Let's stop the people who make a living chopping down our beautiful forest's, -home to all God's creatures, and let them become... natural, again". Yessiree, natural... burns brightly. It took 20-odd years to clean it up coast-to-coast, and 40 years for it to go to Hell in a handbasket in California, but they did it. Now Californicadia has returned to it's natural geographical self of alternating between mudslide rains and drought wildfires, which will never change, but the size of the wildfires is a product of not managing the forests. When they decide to do it, it will take years and years and cost lots of money.

There are more trees in North America now than when the Pilgrims arrived. Settlers take trees with them wherever they go, and the Indians didn't have the ability to fight forest fires, they burned until they were put out by rain or a natural roadblock.

It takes money to do good things, Capitalism generates surplus money that can be taxed, but socialism does not. Unbridled, anything is problematic. The same things well-managed accrue to the good of many. India and China will reap what they're sowing and make changes, eventually. Europe will run out of OPM eventually, too. The world is not perfect, but it's better than when I was a kid, and we are working on it.
 
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Here living in a very mild part of the UK I'm not convinced about seeing signs of climate change.
However, "man" is damaging our planet and seemingly never seems to learn!
"Experts" push completely opposing views......:(
To your point, I watched a PBS American Experience special last night on, "The Swamp" and the several missteps over a 75 year period of harnessing the Everglades. It took those 75 years of doing it wrong in about as many different ways possible until they finally arrived at the conclusion that it is The River of Grass that provides clean water to the whole of south Florida and that redirection is always going to be misdirection. It illustrates that the people involved all had different ideas on how to use the swampland and the water and that they all had good intentions. To my point, they learned and eventually got it right. I urge everyone to find a repeat showing and watch it.

There was a trailer for the next PBS special, "The Big Burn". I look forward to it and recommend it to everyone even though it may contradict some of my historical facts as above. I'm sure it'll tell a more complete evolution of how we manage our forests. And, learn from our mistakes.
 
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Here in Texas we have been in a severe drought for 9 years, the worst since the 50's. The winters fluctuate, this year it was really cold and last year it was incredibly warm.
I’m in Waco. When I moved here 18 yrs ago we were 7b and now we are closer to 8a-b. Our summers are hotter and much drier. Winters aren’t nearly as cold. We have only had 10 days of below freezing so far. We’ll see if we get anymore
 

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