I had them at my house in NJ but here I just don't have enough mixture of sun and shade until my trees get bigger .Land developer thought taking out all the trees was smart and so far I have planted over 30 trees back and some of them are fruit trees and try to buy them end of season to get great prices .I tried 2 hydrangeas but they are not doing so good .I planted them by 2 magnolias .They are on either side of the boy and girl in wood .