Thanks Tetters it not been the best of years in the garden mainly weather related. Me and the Cornishman do have similar taste in plants I do wonder what has happened to him . The Persicaria is called September Spires, its a new plant I bought early this year.Cor, that is looking good @Perki looking at your plants reminds me of a certain advisor we had who lives in Cornwall! Which Persicaria is that in your last photo please ?