This is the other bush I mentioned. I'm not sure what to do with it. It is sort of "falling" over to the left. It had been tied together. Would tying it together tighter at the bottom help it out any?
As I mentioned in my previous post - THE PRUNING METHOD FOR CLIMBING ROSES IS VERY DIFFERENT TO THAT OF PRUNING OTHER ROSE VARIETIES and as not pruning a climbing rose correctly can be detrimental to both its looks and its health it is important to do it correctly - as not doing so will result in an unsightly specimen rather than a healthy attractive rose that is a pleasure to behold.
So as both your roses are climbers - as I've previously explained - they will require very little pruning in order to keep them in shape - which is done mainly by tip pruning - which means cutting NO MORE than 6 to 8 inches of the main stem and if you should wish to reduce the height of a main stem by more than that or you have too many main stems - rather than reducing the height by cutting a few feet off - it is best done by removing the whole of the main stem and cutting right down to ground level - just below the soil.
On looking at your second picture - I can instantly see what the problem is and have to say that unfortunately however much you try to tie it back it will not improve its looks - as its got way out of control and needs some major renovation in order to bring back to its original glory and bloom all over rather than just at the top.
In order to do that you will first need the right tools - as due to the fact that the main stems will be pretty hard - you will probably require the use of a pruning saw as well as a good strong pair of pruning sheers and maybe even a pair of loppers - as well as some ties or supports for attaching the main stems to the wall.
What to do next - firstly as climbing roses are normally grown in a fan shape with no more than 5 - 6 main stems with the center main stem being taller than the two on either side - as yours has way more than that - you will need to select the 5-6 youngest main stems that you wish to keep and remove all the rest - which on looking at yours appears to be at least 10 - down to ground level just below the surface of the soil and once you have done that - all you need to do is attach the remaining main stems to the wall in a fan shape and tip prune in order to acquire the shape you require - which as
Chuck mentioned - will result in what will be a truly stunning sight - as your rose will cover the entire wall with blooms from top to bottom
nearly forgot - although this can be done at any time of the year - its is normally best done when the foliage has dropped as its easier to see what you are doing when there are no leaves in the way
