Identification please

[tinyboots]

My dad gave me two of these but can't remember what they are can anyone help please

 

[DiggersJo]

At first I thought they were oak trees! Chrysanthemum of some sort?

 

[tinyboots]

Thank you I have no idea at all

 

[tinyboots]

I also have this growing through my leylani any ideas sorry total beginner both are the same

 

[DiggersJo]

First one looks a bit like elderberry leaves.

 

[tinyboots]

Thank you