I was on the fence about the echo stuff. Came down to availability for me on that one. Let us know how it holds up.
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Me too, and I still like a rear wheel drive trim mower, but I have all the batteries and chargers from the 58v chainsaw, line trimmer and blower. I have no doubt it will be tough built gauging by the other three tools.
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Hi, We have a lot of garden tools will be sold in half month later, autumn is coming soon, I think a leaf blower & vac is suitable for you, and if you are interesting, we can give it to you for free.
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oh my god,can i have one for free? I want to get a blower for my yard.
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all my lawn tools are cordless. ???????
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Sold my electric start self propelled (and heavy) Toro personal pace today. Now there is room in the shed for a new toy!
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I realize this is an older thread but thought I'd comment.
About 5 years ago I decided to go cordless. First, I bought the Kobalt 80V trimmer on sale. Part of the sale was that it also came with a mail in rebate for an extra battery.
Then we got the Kobalt 80V mower about 8 months later. Same batteries so that's good.
On the plus side, the trimmer takes any of the Trimmer Plus attachments. I wasn't really impressed by the edger but the pole saw attachment has been great. I also have the hedge trimmer attachment but have only used it twice. Seems ok. The leaf blower attachment has been pretty good but LOUD. I now have the 80V Kobalt leaf blower as well though. It isn't as powerful as the trimmer plus attachment but the Kobalt is much lighter and more maneuverable.
On the negative, my trimmer line cap is about to wear through. I've tried for years to buy a couple just to have when it eventually fails but haven't been successful.
The wheels on the lawnmower went wonky about two years ago. Makes it much harder to push. Trying to get parts through Lowes and Kobalt has been a royal PITA. That's a shame since l have largely been a happy camper.
Lowes/Kobalt has had a redesign on the mower since I bought in.
I don't have to fool with gas or engine oil and I don't have to winterize. Slap that battery in and go. Big fan of that.
About 5 years ago I decided to go cordless. First, I bought the Kobalt 80V trimmer on sale. Part of the sale was that it also came with a mail in rebate for an extra battery.
Then we got the Kobalt 80V mower about 8 months later. Same batteries so that's good.
On the plus side, the trimmer takes any of the Trimmer Plus attachments. I wasn't really impressed by the edger but the pole saw attachment has been great. I also have the hedge trimmer attachment but have only used it twice. Seems ok. The leaf blower attachment has been pretty good but LOUD. I now have the 80V Kobalt leaf blower as well though. It isn't as powerful as the trimmer plus attachment but the Kobalt is much lighter and more maneuverable.
On the negative, my trimmer line cap is about to wear through. I've tried for years to buy a couple just to have when it eventually fails but haven't been successful.
The wheels on the lawnmower went wonky about two years ago. Makes it much harder to push. Trying to get parts through Lowes and Kobalt has been a royal PITA. That's a shame since l have largely been a happy camper.
Lowes/Kobalt has had a redesign on the mower since I bought in.
I don't have to fool with gas or engine oil and I don't have to winterize. Slap that battery in and go. Big fan of that.
The only thing I switched to electric was the power washer. I decided to go electric with that because I use it max 3 times a year. The mower gets used every week and the blower even more. When cutting grass or blowing leaves I want power . From what I see of my neighbor's blower it can barely move a few inches of leaves let alone a pile. If the Exmark boggs down then I doubt that an electric mower could get through tall grass. I have no idea what batteries cost but if they are as expensive as the ones on my Dewalt drill then it's almost cheaper to buy a new drill.
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This is going to sound like I'm shilling for the industry. I'm not. But I'm more than happy with the performance of electrics. Gone are the days of 18V yard tools.
The Kobalt mower has sensors. When mowing higher or wetter grass, it speeds up automatically. I sometimes have time slip away and the grass gets a little high but have never bogged down. It does use more battery when that happens just as a gas engine uses more gas when pushed. I have two leaf blowers, the 80V Kobalt as well as the Trimmer Plus blower attachment that fits on the 80V Kobalt Trimmer. The Trimmer Plus has more power and is also much louder. The Kobalt has three speeds.
Batteries are expensive. But I don't have to winterize, buy oil to mix with the gas I also have to purchase. There is no replacing of the little primer bulbs, no smoke, FAR LESS noise, and many municipalities and states have rebates for electric. There are far fewer parts to go wrong and be replaced at some point down the road. Like you, I also use mine weekly though I actually use the blowers for a quick sweep several times a week. I even used the blowers for snow removal this last year. Mostly powder but also if you chipped up surface ice, you could blow under it and it kept flipping up the packed layer and blew off underneath. That came in pretty handy and sped up getting to the car in the morning.
I don't have to burn hydrocarbons past initial production. I also no longer keep gas cans (and gave all mine away) or have to make trips to buy gas, and don't worry about stabilizing gas for the winter. No vapors, no fire hazards, no smells.
Best of all? No more yanking arms out of my sockets trying to pull-start anything. Flip a switch & squeeze a trigger. Ms. UrbanWild also appreciates that one.
The Trimmer Plus attachments I use most are the hedge trimmer, pole saw, and blower. The cost to add those to my Kobalt platform was not as large as buying all the standalone tools. The mower came with two batteries and the trimmer came with one but I bought it when they had a rebate for an extra battery when you bought it. So, I have four batteries that I can use in any of the tools. I also have the blower that iuses the same batteries. Since I have three chargers I can fully charge three batteries in about 20-30 mins. That means if I start with four fully charged, I'd have newly charged batteries coming off the chargers before I am physically able to discharge the ones I could already use. I'm going into my sixth season on my fleet.
Even Stihl has started putting out electric units.
Not trying to sell you, but the industry has been heading down this path for a while. In trade shows it's been reported that some more traditional companies have noted they will be all electric at some point.
The guy who owns the house three houses away from me has a commercial lawn and landscaping service with all the necessary large vehicles, tankers, trailers, pro machinery and tools. At home? He uses the same Kobalt 80v tools I do. In fact, I talked to him about his units before I took the plunge trimmer.
Again, the back mower wheels are a bit wobbly and I will eventually need a string cap for the trimmer. But after 5+ years of constant use that's it so far. The mower had a 3 year warranty. Can't remember what the trimmer had.
The Kobalt mower has sensors. When mowing higher or wetter grass, it speeds up automatically. I sometimes have time slip away and the grass gets a little high but have never bogged down. It does use more battery when that happens just as a gas engine uses more gas when pushed. I have two leaf blowers, the 80V Kobalt as well as the Trimmer Plus blower attachment that fits on the 80V Kobalt Trimmer. The Trimmer Plus has more power and is also much louder. The Kobalt has three speeds.
Batteries are expensive. But I don't have to winterize, buy oil to mix with the gas I also have to purchase. There is no replacing of the little primer bulbs, no smoke, FAR LESS noise, and many municipalities and states have rebates for electric. There are far fewer parts to go wrong and be replaced at some point down the road. Like you, I also use mine weekly though I actually use the blowers for a quick sweep several times a week. I even used the blowers for snow removal this last year. Mostly powder but also if you chipped up surface ice, you could blow under it and it kept flipping up the packed layer and blew off underneath. That came in pretty handy and sped up getting to the car in the morning.
I don't have to burn hydrocarbons past initial production. I also no longer keep gas cans (and gave all mine away) or have to make trips to buy gas, and don't worry about stabilizing gas for the winter. No vapors, no fire hazards, no smells.
Best of all? No more yanking arms out of my sockets trying to pull-start anything. Flip a switch & squeeze a trigger. Ms. UrbanWild also appreciates that one.
The Trimmer Plus attachments I use most are the hedge trimmer, pole saw, and blower. The cost to add those to my Kobalt platform was not as large as buying all the standalone tools. The mower came with two batteries and the trimmer came with one but I bought it when they had a rebate for an extra battery when you bought it. So, I have four batteries that I can use in any of the tools. I also have the blower that iuses the same batteries. Since I have three chargers I can fully charge three batteries in about 20-30 mins. That means if I start with four fully charged, I'd have newly charged batteries coming off the chargers before I am physically able to discharge the ones I could already use. I'm going into my sixth season on my fleet.
Even Stihl has started putting out electric units.
Not trying to sell you, but the industry has been heading down this path for a while. In trade shows it's been reported that some more traditional companies have noted they will be all electric at some point.
The guy who owns the house three houses away from me has a commercial lawn and landscaping service with all the necessary large vehicles, tankers, trailers, pro machinery and tools. At home? He uses the same Kobalt 80v tools I do. In fact, I talked to him about his units before I took the plunge trimmer.
Again, the back mower wheels are a bit wobbly and I will eventually need a string cap for the trimmer. But after 5+ years of constant use that's it so far. The mower had a 3 year warranty. Can't remember what the trimmer had.
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Small engines are slowly going into the same box we stored the rotary phones. I have a 7.5 hp chainsaw that operates at 13,500 rpm. They will figure out how to replace it. I have 2 58v 16 inch saws that I enjoy using for most work and save the largest trunks they serve well.
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I had a tree service out here to remove a large and a HUGE maple last year. All the saws they used were Stihl. The pole saws were all Stihl battery electric and they also ran a small chain saw as a Stihl battery electric. I say this because they are a team constantly running Stihl engines so maintaining one two or three more is next to no additional work.
I recently replaced my Stihl string trimmer (possibly was a FS 380) with a DeWalt 20 V Max battery trimmer. The trimmer works great. Big selling factor for me was the battery is interchangeable with my drill and recip saw. I now see DeWalt has a mower out running with the same 20 V battery system and it's been getting good reviews - that has me thinking.
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If I'm replying to myself is that the same as talking to myself?
I thought I'd update for people who might be taking the plunge to electric.
1) I do not think I'd ever go Kobalt again. While the mower and trimmer have performed well, it's impossible to I bought the Kobalt 80V trimmer. I asked right then if I could buy a spare cap or three. Crickets. Lowe's said talk tpo Kobalt. Over the next few years from Kobalt I go different answers on almost every call. I was told they didn't have any. Then I was told they needed the model numer...you know...because they make such a wide array of different 80V trimmers. When provided with the model number they couldn't find anything. One day I was told they would need the serial number. Provided. Nope...not anything they could help me with. I was pretty sure they werte made either by Greenworks or the same company that made theirs at the time. I tried Greenworks. No help and they tried to refer me back to Kobalt. During that time I frequently also asked at the customer desk in the lawncare section at Lowes. They have rid themselves of all of the department desks now. They valiantly tried. But boiled down, the answer was try Kobalt.
So, I'm finally giving up on them. I am about to try to remove the head of the Kobalt trimmer and put on a different head. I'm still a big fan of electric. LOVE them. I just wouldn't send any more of my efforts Kobalt's way. Also, if you get a trimmer with a bump head...make sure you can get one or two replacement caps AT THE TIME OF PURCHASE. If you can't...walk away and buy a different one.
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If I'm replying to myself is that the same as talking to myself?
I thought I'd update for people who might be taking the plunge to electric.
1) I do not think I'd ever go Kobalt again. While the mower and trimmer have performed well, it's impossible to I bought the Kobalt 80V trimmer. I asked right then if I could buy a spare cap or three. Crickets. Lowe's said talk tpo Kobalt. Over the next few years from Kobalt I go different answers on almost every call. I was told they didn't have any. Then I was told they needed the model numer...you know...because they make such a wide array of different 80V trimmers. When provided with the model number they couldn't find anything. One day I was told they would need the serial number. Provided. Nope...not anything they could help me with. I was pretty sure they werte made either by Greenworks or the same company that made theirs at the time. I tried Greenworks. No help and they tried to refer me back to Kobalt. During that time I frequently also asked at the customer desk in the lawncare section at Lowes. They have rid themselves of all of the department desks now. They valiantly tried. But boiled down, the answer was try Kobalt.
So, I'm finally giving up on them. I am about to try to remove the head of the Kobalt trimmer and put on a different head. I'm still a big fan of electric. LOVE them. I just wouldn't send any more of my efforts Kobalt's way. Also, if you get a trimmer with a bump head...make sure you can get one or two replacement caps AT THE TIME OF PURCHASE. If you can't...walk away and buy a different one.
I like the easy feed style head on my echo 58v. No disassembly just line up the through hole to the line ports and thread the line through. Then wind it up. Surely that style is out there. Shaft diameter and drive connection may well be similiar to others too, but I would measure it in both metric and SAE before researching.
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Back to digging up an old thread but here goes.
I bought the 20 V Max DeWalt lawn mower a few weeks ago and it has preformed nicely. This is not the self propelled one but did come with two 10 Ah batteries. The battery power is enough to cut the whole lawn in one charge (0.42 acre lot which is about 1/3 lawn). But is not quite powerful enough to eat through a pile of 7 month old leafs and bag them to be used as garden mulch.
The adaptive power was a little weird at first. I was used to one power level when cutting but this DeWalt has two or three noticable power levels based on what you're cutting through.
The deciding factor for me on this was I had drills, recip-saws, and a string trimmer already using this battery system. Now I have a lawn mower and two more HUGE batteries that work in all my other tools.
I bought the 20 V Max DeWalt lawn mower a few weeks ago and it has preformed nicely. This is not the self propelled one but did come with two 10 Ah batteries. The battery power is enough to cut the whole lawn in one charge (0.42 acre lot which is about 1/3 lawn). But is not quite powerful enough to eat through a pile of 7 month old leafs and bag them to be used as garden mulch.
The adaptive power was a little weird at first. I was used to one power level when cutting but this DeWalt has two or three noticable power levels based on what you're cutting through.
The deciding factor for me on this was I had drills, recip-saws, and a string trimmer already using this battery system. Now I have a lawn mower and two more HUGE batteries that work in all my other tools.
When the battery goes, and it will you will wish you could go down and buy a gallon of gas. I just went through the decision process of buying one new 18 volt Dewalt battery for the ridicules price of $109 or buying a Dewalt1.5 amp hr battery and a smaller drill for $99 dollars . When I bought the original drill 5 years ago it cost $100 dollars and came with two batteries. . The 1.5 amp works for what I need it for, which is a drill. It would not power any other tool for very long . Tool companies today are using the same marketing scheme that the inkjet printer companies use. Sell the initial product cheap then gouge you when you need a consumable .Two 8 amp Dewalt batteries are $330 dollars, and that is at todays prices. You can expect that they will be in the neighborhood of $500 when the battery that comes with your new lawn mower need replacement.
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I have discovered that tv repair shops are able to "fix" batteries as well as battery stores and that to date none of my li-on batteries that stopped working were bad , rather it was this little power management control board inside that winks out with a bad capacitor or other niggling detail. I suppose there may come a time when I get the proper tools to fix batteries or replace the parts the way I have to rebuild carburators and clutches today.
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@mgmine and @DirtMechanic I decided not to engage...
There are several tutorials on rebuilding or replacing cells in tool battery packs. I'd say this is not a standard DIY project but I'm not a typical DIY'er in this case. By training I am an electrical engineer. By profession I spent 8 years in printed circuit board and embedded systems then made a minor career shift. For the last 26 months I have been designing and building the assembly lines for electric vehicle battery modules and battery packs.
I feel confident in repairing battery packs and electronics. You start talking about carburetors, fuel mixing or spark plugs and my eyes glaze over.
There are several tutorials on rebuilding or replacing cells in tool battery packs. I'd say this is not a standard DIY project but I'm not a typical DIY'er in this case. By training I am an electrical engineer. By profession I spent 8 years in printed circuit board and embedded systems then made a minor career shift. For the last 26 months I have been designing and building the assembly lines for electric vehicle battery modules and battery packs.
I feel confident in repairing battery packs and electronics. You start talking about carburetors, fuel mixing or spark plugs and my eyes glaze over.
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Voltage has absolutely nothing to do with it regarding the efficiency of a mower. It's the design of the motor to run on a specific voltage and current that matters. And those EGO things that bragged about 48V batteries were just packed full of AA size ones!!
Kimo String Trimmer was available on Amazon for sixty dollars. Customer service is responsive. It only takes 45 minutes to recharge the battery and can do a lot of heavy-duty yard work.