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    3F58D895-F8D4-466A-9783-7772BB5D55EE.jpeg 5D98D22A-9BA8-4FD9-A58C-A26216CA2667.jpeg B7694D08-FBDE-4D71-912B-D3AD5C19FD84.jpeg B7694D08-FBDE-4D71-912B-D3AD5C19FD84.jpeg 3F58D895-F8D4-466A-9783-7772BB5D55EE.jpeg 5D98D22A-9BA8-4FD9-A58C-A26216CA2667.jpeg I have got theses old roses look half dead to me can I save them or should I just dig them up and start again?
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    Leeski, please define "old roses" for me. I consider old roses to be old varieties, not hybrids. Or do you mean they were planted years ago and are "old."
    If they are truly old variety roses, just cut them down to about 12" to 18", keep them damp but not drowned, and they will grow back. We have to do this with our roses (old varieties, own-root and not grafted) about every 10 years.
    If they are grafted or hybrid roses, dig and replace. Those types of roses have a life span, and may have reached the end of it.
    If you dig and replace, you may want to consider replacing in a different spot. It looks as if with the fence and the greenery behind your roses, there may be a lack of air circulation and too much competition for nutrients and water.
     
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    They were here when we moved in about 5 years ago so don’t know how old they are just know they have gone down hill this last year there very woody at the bottom sorry to sound so vague just I know very little about roses they did produce so lovely flowers about a month ago 43BADBE4-94E8-41A7-BF45-A5B5750DF637.jpeg
     
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    That is a very helpful photo, thank you! First, get rid of the black plastic--it is heating up the soil and preventing water from penetrating. Roses have a pretty extensive root system, and need the soil around them to accept water, not just at the base of the rose.
    Check the bottom stem of the rose. If there is a large "bump" at or just above the soil line, the rose is grafted and most likely a hybrid. If there is no bump, the rose is probably own-root, which is preferable if you want a long-term, strong rose. Assuming you have own-root roses, cut off all dead material now, and next season, when the rose starts to grow in the spring, prune it back heavily. By heavily I mean cut the stems down individually by 1/2 to 1/3. I know, it sounds radical, and when I do it I nearly cry, but in the long run the rose is much better off.
    If those roses bloomed this spring (they are very pretty!) they are just in need of a little "tough love" and will repay you with more blooms in future.
     
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    Thank you so much for your help and knowledge will check the bottoms for grafting first light will be so pleased if I can bring some life back to them as in pic the flowers were stunning this spring
    Thanks again
     
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    5D44919F-29EC-4CC1-8EF4-7BF0B9848380.jpeg Can you tell by this pic if there are grafted ?
    Many thanks
     
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    I can't give you a definite yes or no, but to my eye it seems they are not grafted.
    Both of the stems show damage, possibly from beetles chewing or some other bug, hiding in the bark mulch. Can you pull the mulch back about 6" from the roses? That would keep the chewers at a safe distance.
     
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    Will do going to be brave and cut them back and keep my fingers crossed
     
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    The one rose I didn’t cut back has produced this at 5am it was closed and dark red I like roses think there 1BD0390A-8FB3-4018-9E99-41CAA843F1A1.jpeg fab going to read up on them and hopefully in the future will have some nice ones :)
     
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