Grapes in 6B Ohio

[MamaHawk]

Hi all, cross posting with a fruit forum!

So far I’ve found local options at Walmart and a local nursery, but I’m not sure what ACTUALLY does well in Ohio. Ideally I’m looking for seedless dessert grapes - I don’t really care about size, so long as they taste good and will survive Any ideas? So far I’ve found:

Walmart:
~Van Zyverden seedless Concord (Bare root)
~Van Zyverden seedless Somerset (Bare root)
~Van Zyverden seedless Himrod (Bare root)
~Van Zyverden seedless Somerset (Bare root)
~Set of two bare root - Reliance and Niagara
~Potted Summer Royal seedless black (it says jams and jellies so maybe it’s not good fresh off the vine?)
~Van Zyverden Grapes Thomcord Seedless Set of 3 Plants White (The pictures don’t show white grapes so I’m confused about what these are at all) - bare root
~ Van Zyverden Grapes Einset Seedless (Bare root)
~Catawba red grape seedlings
~“Tickled pink” grape bare (dormant) root - no further information provided

Local nursery (all potted):
~Mars (seedless, cold hardy, good for fresh+jams and jellies)
~Canadice (Pretty much same as above)
~Lakemont (same as above but in September rather than August)

Menards:
~Fredonia grape #2 Fredonia Grape Shrub at Menards®
~Catawba: Grape Catawba Fruit Seeds at Menards®
~Concord: Concord Grape Fruit Bulbs - 1 Count at Menards®
~Niaraga: Niagara Green Grape Fruit Bulbs - 1 Count at Menards®

I really like Derek Fell’s books, and all he said for grapes that I’ve found is recommending Concord, Thompson’s Seedless, or Suffolk, maybe Cayuga? But I haven’t found any of those locally (except Concord) and am unsure if they’re worth a special order when I don’t know what I’m doing. Thoughts? Advice? Warnings?

 

[oneeye]

Thompson’s Seedless has been a favorite for me. Its important to match the soil pH with the plants before planting. Grapes do best in slightly acidic soil with a pH of 5.5 to 6.5 pH. I recommend you getting a soil test before investing a lot in plants. Basic soil tests are around $30 and well worth the money.

 

[MamaHawk]

Thompson’s Seedless has been a favorite for me. Its important to match the soil pH with the plants before planting. Grapes do best in slightly acidic soil with a pH of 5.5 to 6.5 pH. I recommend you getting a soil test before investing a lot in plants. Basic soil tests are around $30 and well worth the money.

How much soil/how many areas can be tested per test? I imagine one plot at a time…so I’m looking at three already :/

 

[oneeye]

How much soil/how many areas can be tested per test? I imagine one plot at a time…so I’m looking at three already :/

I dig soil from a few different areas in the main growing area and mix them together for a single soil test. On a large property, I will take 3 samples from the front and 3 from the back and send off 2 tests especially if the ground is sloped. If the yard is small I would mix the front and back soils together and only send one test to the lab. Dig down and get your sample about 4 inches deep for lawns and about 6 to 8 inches deep for trees, shrubs and vines. The soil tests are good for about 5 years.

 

[MamaHawk]

I dig soil from a few different areas in the main growing area and mix them together for a single soil test. On a large property, I will take 3 samples from the front and 3 from the back and send off 2 tests especially if the ground is sloped. If the yard is small I would mix the front and back soils together and only send one test to the lab. Dig down and get your sample about 4 inches deep for lawns and about 6 to 8 inches deep for trees, shrubs and vines. The soil tests are good for about 5 years.

Terrific to know, thank you!