Am i raising a healthy weed?

[gunslingor]

This can't be oregano can it? Looks like arugula or something what to do?

 

[YumYum]

Hehe. Not oregano.

You do need more N or a pH check and stop worrying with that grow tent.

Gorsh.

 

[YumYum]

Carefully pull that weed cause I see the real deal sprouting underneath it. It may have a big taproot and damage the other. Water it after you do.

 

[gunslingor]

Carefully pull that weed cause I see the real deal sprouting underneath it. It may have a big taproot and damage the other. Water it after you do.

Thanks yummy, i think your right, it might be a lost cause, unless the oregano can just overpower the weed which is likely, considering its oregano, lol. Ill probably either let them proceed with their Ultra slow motion fight or nip the leaves only at some point to tip the balance... but I got my money on the oregano, anyone taking bets? Lol.

 

[gunslingor]

Hehe. Not oregano.

You do need more N or a pH check and stop worrying with that grow tent.

Gorsh.

You think i need to fertilize more? How can you tell? I used fox farm potting soil this time instead of light warrior and plants are 300% healther and faster growing in the tent. Tomatos still have a little purple, but not as bad as last time... only thing i am worried about is tomato... I have to master the blossom end rot issue and i am starting to think the early purple is an indicator of later rot, as i understand the uptake of calcium is slow. I gave em very weak grow big and calmag last week, it may have helped, the two starting leaves seem the worst, but they usually die around leaf 6 as I understand. Eith this soil, there is so much organic material in there, you really need to keep fertilizing?

 

[gunslingor]

WARNING More gratuitous plant porn follows.

Only potential problem i see is purple... oh wait, one strange tomato variety has acne now, lol. Growing like 40 roma and 40 others of like 20 species... I'm insaine! Obsessed with getting the tonato right, tired of not getting it quite right. I got some special seeds from University of Virgina, suposedly the first tomato that is septoria resistant, roma, just my luck, pizza likes roma! ... but they just arrived, so maybe crop two... septoria invaded my yard last year from an evil plant mongers curse put on me... never buying tomatos again, only seeds, yep im rambling. Some spices dont want to sprout either, hush now guns.

 

[YumYum]

You think i need to fertilize more? How can you tell? I used fox farm potting soil this time instead of light warrior and plants are 300% healther and faster growing in the tent.

Now that they are out from under the grow light, the peppers look fine. The pale green color is how you can tell which the lighting was throwing off.

 

[YumYum]

Tomatos still have a little purple, but not as bad as last time... only thing i am worried about is tomato... I have to master the blossom end rot issue and i am starting to think the early purple is an indicator of later rot, as i understand the uptake of calcium is slow. I gave em very weak grow big and calmag last week, it may have helped, the two starting leaves seem the worst, but they usually die around leaf 6 as I understand. Eith this soil, there is so much organic material in there, you really need to keep fertilizing?

I'm glad you posted that. I'm fighting the very same thing right now. Only my tomatoes are purpling on the under sides of the leaves.... not onions, peppers, cabbage, or brocolli. Makes no sense. I've never had that problem when growing them outside.

I'm thinking it is the led lights doing that but I've since lowered my watering pH to 6.0 to see if I can get some kind of result. It was a 6.5 pH.

 

[YumYum]

one strange tomato variety has acne now

I haven't had any leaf bubbling like that. Maybe the light is too intense.

 

[YumYum]

Here is what mine look like.

 

[gunslingor]

Here is what mine look like.
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Those look pretty good man, better than mine. Everything is still under grow lights, just been under stronger ones in the tent from the start... first batch died in 1 night when moved to tent, wrong soil and weak starting light... I will say mine have much beefier stems than years, same leaf count maybe... max 2 weeks apart. Im pretty certain your lights are too far away, those kind are very very weak comoared to all other kinds, virtually no IR or UV, tough to be precise on light frequencies that plants crave when your just running eletrons thru a tube of gas... led vs florescent is like Cathode rat tube TV vs Ultra HD OLED 3D, lol, sorry im a electronics, electrical and computer engineer.

As for the purpling, ive been studying this stuff for teo years. I understand the problem, not really how to fix it. Ultimately, i think the little seedlings are like any kids, a massed with chemicals that makes em bounce off the walls... they are trying to grow fast and hard since they have such small surface area of leaves for ANY new energy... so on a per weight basis, every cell is growing more in the beginning than later... it may grow fadter later, but that's only because there are more cells.

One thing i have learned, is thst tomatoes seem to require absolutely consistent moisture... consistent is the key, they do okay with a little too much or a little too little, but bounce around and your screwed. I think this balance is more delicate with seedlings perhaps because of the kid factor discussed. So i think the purple, with good potting mix, has to be overwatering... because i am sure neither of us are underwatering seedlings and we are consistent.

Aligns with my acne diagnosis, caused by when the plant absorbs more water than it can release.

One problem i have... no good moister sensor. Another, no easy way to test 80 cells. Another, no way to keep 80 cells perfect easily, garden sprayer seems easiest, hose type not hand type. But... I think this probably all suggests something perhaps obvious in hidesight... the best way to water seedlings is with a mister on a timer, many small times a day... even with the instinct not to get leaves wet, seems my best option... gonna try à short 5 to 10 second mist, 3 to 5 times a day, to start.

Sometimes you get the purple splotches, then the plant grows a little more and new leaves stop that... but I also read about purple viens which might be a precursor or lesser version, not sure... I just might have one with purple viens and green everywhere else on new leaves, maybe suggesting its getting better.

The tough part is cal mag... not water soluble i hear, its obsorbed so slow and affected by moister content and maybe even consistency... not sure if I blame the tomato or the calmag for the consistency headache, someone should bread a more tollerant tomato, lol.

Thats my take, less water more often might fix everything.

 

[gunslingor]

Oh no, im getting ideas how to convert my irrigation system into a misting system...lol.

 

[YumYum]

Do you know the pH of what you are watering with?

 

[YumYum]

Those blisters you see are edema. High humidity, overwatering, or poor nutrition or pH problem. Being they are in the grow tent, I'd bet on high humidity and not enough air exchange for transpiration.

 

[gunslingor]

Those blisters you see are edema. High humidity, overwatering, or poor nutrition or pH problem. Being they are in the grow tent, I'd bet on high humidity and not enough air exchange for transpiration.

I think you can get it with too low humidity too, like 20%... but yeah too high humidity... got me a cube, just start it.