Tree identification

[SeniorCitizen]

Ok, my daughter sent to me a leaflet pic and another full view being it has drastically changed color recently. Hopefully this will solve the mystery and thanks everyone.

 

[Silver surfer]

Ash..Fraxinus ...not sure.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=f...3J7JAhUMbBoKHUTYArEQ_AUIBygB&biw=1536&bih=728

I was waiting hoping you would post new pics.
Many thanks for new pics...perfect.
First new pic...This show one single leaf with many pairs of leaflets...with other leaves radiating in a sort of circle
Importantly there is no end/terminal leaflet.
I believe that your daughters tree is Toona sinensis..common name Chinese cedar.
It looks a lot like an Ailanthus, but does not have the glands on the leaflets.

http://www.fastgrowingtrees.us/Klec...oads/2014/01/Chinese-Toon-Compound-Leaves.jpg

Quote wiki..."It is a deciduous tree growing to 25 metres (82 ft) tall with a trunk up to 70 cm diameter. The bark is brown, smooth on young trees, becoming scaly to shaggy on old trees. The leaves are pinnate, 50–70 cm long and 30–40 cm broad, with 10–40 leaflets, the terminal leaflet usually absent (paripinnate) but sometimes present (imparipennate); the individual leaflets 9–15 cm long and 2.5–4 cm broad, with an entire or weakly serrated margin. The flowers are produced in summer in panicles 30–50 cm long at the end of a branch; each flower is small, 4–5 mm diameter, with five white or pale pink petals. The fruit is a capsule 2–3.5 cm long, containing several winged seeds"

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=T...ed=0ahUKEwiEz8rx3J7JAhVGvRoKHVJUDSUQ_AUIBigB#

It would really help if you daughter could find seeds/nuts /berries as this is another id clue. Would prove for sure whether Ash or Toona.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/Toona_sinensis_MHNT.BOT.2010.12.11.jpg

 

[Becky]

Can't comment on the variety I'm afraid, but what a glorious colour! It's looking beautiful

 

[SeniorCitizen]

Ash..Fraxinus ...not sure.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=f...3J7JAhUMbBoKHUTYArEQ_AUIBygB&biw=1536&bih=728

I was waiting hoping you would post new pics.
Many thanks for new pics...perfect.
First new pic...This show one single leaf with many pairs of leaflets...with other leaves radiating in a sort of circle
Importantly there is no end/terminal leaflet.
I believe that your daughters tree is Toona sinensis..common name Chinese cedar.
It looks a lot like an Ailanthus, but does not have the glands on the leaflets.

http://www.fastgrowingtrees.us/Klec...oads/2014/01/Chinese-Toon-Compound-Leaves.jpg

Quote wiki..."It is a deciduous tree growing to 25 metres (82 ft) tall with a trunk up to 70 cm diameter. The bark is brown, smooth on young trees, becoming scaly to shaggy on old trees. The leaves are pinnate, 50–70 cm long and 30–40 cm broad, with 10–40 leaflets, the terminal leaflet usually absent (paripinnate) but sometimes present (imparipennate); the individual leaflets 9–15 cm long and 2.5–4 cm broad, with an entire or weakly serrated margin. The flowers are produced in summer in panicles 30–50 cm long at the end of a branch; each flower is small, 4–5 mm diameter, with five white or pale pink petals. The fruit is a capsule 2–3.5 cm long, containing several winged seeds"

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=T...ed=0ahUKEwiEz8rx3J7JAhVGvRoKHVJUDSUQ_AUIBigB#

It would really help if you daughter could find seeds/nuts /berries as this is another id clue. Would prove for sure whether Ash or Toona.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/Toona_sinensis_MHNT.BOT.2010.12.11.jpg

 

[SeniorCitizen]

Thank you very much.
Speaking of seeds, they may need to wait another season, especially if Bob White Quail like them, being there is usually a covey living on the fringe. And if they didn't eat them the lawn tractor may have but we'll look just the same.

 

[SeniorCitizen]

Now I see why the leaflet tip is important.

A brother has a Chinese Pistasche and according to the pictures I see the leaf tip is single rather than double.

My wording may not be correct spoken to a botanist.

 

[Silver surfer]

Now I see why the leaflet tip is important.

A brother has a Chinese Pistasche and according to the pictures I see the leaf tip is single rather than double.

My wording may not be correct spoken to a botanist.

I understand perfectly.
I am not a botanist either but try my best to explain what I mean in a simple way.

Pistacia chinensis....Ooh a lovely tree....that is another that fits the profile of being without a terminal leaflet.

http://www.ag.auburn.edu/hort/landscape/dbpages/images/79d.jpg

Hmm! Hadn't thought of that one.
Stupid... as we used to grow it. But in Britain it was at best a small tree.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=p...ved=0ahUKEwixzOODnp_JAhXJvBoKHUaNAr8Q_AUIBigB

 

[SeniorCitizen]

I was mistaken, yes you are correct, neither has a terminal leaflet. I guess i was looking at them cross eyed when I thought one of them did.

One more question please while we are here on the subject. The leaves grow off of a stem. What is that stem called? Is it a Peduncle?

My walnut tree, that's too close to the house guttering, provides the gutter with an abundant supply of those and I have a red neck name for them that wouldn't be appropriate here but I would like to know the real name.

 

[Silver surfer]

Peduncle...this is the stalk that attaches a flower..or fruit to the stem.


http://www.wpclipart.com/plants/diagrams/plant_parts/pedicel_peduncle.png

http://content.answers.com/main/content/img/Gardeners/f0186.jpg


The bit with all the leaflets is called Rachis. I can well imagine your gutter full of them...right pain.

http://image.slidesharecdn.com/livi...ng-of-infected-trees-25-638.jpg?cb=1404280517

http://www.cactus-art.biz/note-book/Dictionary/aaa_Dictionary_pictures/compound_leaf.jpg

Hope this helps.