Mystery

Joined
May 2, 2021
Messages
5
Reaction score
1
Country
United States
I have no idea who to ask this to, and not a clue what it would be classified as - which is why I'm asking. If anyone has any theories, I'd be interested in hearing them.

I've lived at this property for about 25 years. When I moved in my backyard was mostly flat.

20 years ago while mowing I noticed a small incline/hill that appeared out of no where. It was just 1-2" above the rest of the ground and less than 6" in diameter.

Every year, this "hill" has grown both in height and diameter. I'm now looking at a 10-12" tall by 6-8' diameter hill in my yard, and every year it only gets bigger and taller.

I've heard of tree roots dying, I've heard of sink holes, I've had old septic systems collapse before (elsewhere, not here) - but I've never heard of hills forming out of nothing.

No trees anywhere near this spot. No activity ever done near this spot (above or under ground). No structures near this spot.

So my question is, what on earth could cause the ground to raise up like this?
 
Joined
May 2, 2021
Messages
5
Reaction score
1
Country
United States
Does the grass on top of this hill grow the same as in surrounding areas

Indeed. It's a lot shorter and often times more yellow than it's surroundings but that is because when I mow, the elevation change comes up so quickly that I often don't lift my blades high enough or quick enough to compensate, so I end up mowing closer to the ground (and often enough, strike the ground with the blades/deck). But yes - normally no dead spots or anything that sticks out.
 
Joined
Feb 2, 2014
Messages
11,489
Reaction score
5,591
Location
La Porte Texas
Hardiness Zone
8b
Country
United States
In many areas around San Antonio there are instances of this very thing. Here it is caused by a very large rock coming up towards the surface, but here the grass doesn't grow quite as thick or as healthy because the roots can't grow deep enough. Have you tried digging a hole with a post hole digger and see what is down about 2 feet deep? Here the rock usually about 4-6 inches deep and it can be huge.
 
Joined
May 2, 2021
Messages
5
Reaction score
1
Country
United States
In many areas around San Antonio there are instances of this very thing. Here it is caused by a very large rock coming up towards the surface, but here the grass doesn't grow quite as thick or as healthy because the roots can't grow deep enough. Have you tried digging a hole with a post hole digger and see what is down about 2 feet deep? Here the rock usually about 4-6 inches deep and it can be huge.

I haven't recently. I was curious about 6-8 years ago when neighbors mentioned it in passing (they thought it was strange as well) and I took one of those 3' ground anchors I use to hold down the kid's trampoline and had no problem at the time pushing it straight down. As I recall, there were no roots or any big rocks or anything that came up when I twisted it in ...some little rocks, but we got plenty of them around here in the ground (1", maybe at most 2")..

I think I got some 6' rebar in the shed, could hammer some of that down there and see if I hit anything but I somehow doubt I will make contact with anything.

Rocks does make sense though .. but it would have to be a massive one.. best explanation I've heard so far.
 
Joined
Feb 2, 2014
Messages
11,489
Reaction score
5,591
Location
La Porte Texas
Hardiness Zone
8b
Country
United States
I haven't recently. I was curious about 6-8 years ago when neighbors mentioned it in passing (they thought it was strange as well) and I took one of those 3' ground anchors I use to hold down the kid's trampoline and had no problem at the time pushing it straight down. As I recall, there were no roots or any big rocks or anything that came up when I twisted it in ...some little rocks, but we got plenty of them around here in the ground (1", maybe at most 2")..

I think I got some 6' rebar in the shed, could hammer some of that down there and see if I hit anything but I somehow doubt I will make contact with anything.

Rocks does make sense though .. but it would have to be a massive one.. best explanation I've heard so far.
Worst case is that it could be the actual bed rock shifting. Are there any concrete foundations failing nearby?
 
Joined
May 2, 2021
Messages
5
Reaction score
1
Country
United States
Worst case is that it could be the actual bed rock shifting. Are there any concrete foundations failing nearby?

Not that I'm aware of.

In case it helps, my fresh water well sits about 30' from this location ... the well is 50' deep. The nearest structure to this area is a neighbors property. Several years ago they added onto the house and ended up spending 30% more due to unexpected ground conditions (they added onto their basement as well, which meant digging down over 12' I guess). From what I was told, they hit a lot of sand and clay which wasn't expected, which meant more materials required for the foundation/basement they put on.
 
Joined
Feb 2, 2014
Messages
11,489
Reaction score
5,591
Location
La Porte Texas
Hardiness Zone
8b
Country
United States
Not that I'm aware of.

In case it helps, my fresh water well sits about 30' from this location ... the well is 50' deep. The nearest structure to this area is a neighbors property. Several years ago they added onto the house and ended up spending 30% more due to unexpected ground conditions (they added onto their basement as well, which meant digging down over 12' I guess). From what I was told, they hit a lot of sand and clay which wasn't expected, which meant more materials required for the foundation/basement they put on.
Very interesting. Any fluctuations in your well water level? BTW where are you located?
 
Joined
May 2, 2021
Messages
5
Reaction score
1
Country
United States
This is in central Wisconsin - the area is mostly very flat and unremarkable.

The water table today is a little lower than usual but we had a very mild winter with not much snow. No one to my knowledge in this area has ever had any issue with their well water running dry .. even many years ago when all of the grass was dead and brown, and we hadn't gotten rain in months, there was enough flow to sustain the neighborhood.

The water itself is what you would expect from this area (hard water) and hasn't ever changed since I moved here (I test it monthly to fine tune my water softener when needed).

I agree, it's pretty strange. It doesn't bother me, it is annoying to mow over to be sure, but it is what it is. I'm more curious than anything.

Maybe I'll get lucky and be the first one in Wisconsin to have private tours of a mini-volcano in my backyard... or.. it's just a damn rock.
 
Joined
Feb 2, 2014
Messages
11,489
Reaction score
5,591
Location
La Porte Texas
Hardiness Zone
8b
Country
United States
This is in central Wisconsin - the area is mostly very flat and unremarkable.

The water table today is a little lower than usual but we had a very mild winter with not much snow. No one to my knowledge in this area has ever had any issue with their well water running dry .. even many years ago when all of the grass was dead and brown, and we hadn't gotten rain in months, there was enough flow to sustain the neighborhood.

The water itself is what you would expect from this area (hard water) and hasn't ever changed since I moved here (I test it monthly to fine tune my water softener when needed).

I agree, it's pretty strange. It doesn't bother me, it is annoying to mow over to be sure, but it is what it is. I'm more curious than anything.

Maybe I'll get lucky and be the first one in Wisconsin to have private tours of a mini-volcano in my backyard... or.. it's just a damn rock.
You mentioned sand and clay. Doesn't a sink hole begin with underground water erosion? Erode away the sand and that leaves clay. And water pressure will stretch clay like water in a balloon. Wouldn't it be something if it was an artesian spring forming and hopefully not a sink hole. It might be fun to talk to a hydrologist about this.
 

zigs

Cactus Grower, Kent.
Moderator
Joined
Oct 10, 2012
Messages
9,701
Reaction score
11,549
Location
Kent
Hardiness Zone
9a
Country
United Kingdom
Welcome to the forum :)

My first thought was a salt dome

https://geology.com/stories/13/salt-domes/

But I just checked where Wisconsin is and it doesn't seem to be in the right area for it.

I like Chuck's idea of the boulder working it's way up :)

The other thing to consider would be, is it actually a hill rising or is the ground around it shrinking/falling?

I've seen things apparently rise up on peat lands ( I used to live in Somerset, a lot of peat around on the levels) because the peat is shrinking as it dries up through man made drainage of the farmlands. Some of the roads are like driving over a roller coaster and some houses need steps to get up to the front doors now, even though they were originally built at ground level.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Mar 22, 2017
Messages
4,166
Reaction score
3,203
Location
Kent
Country
United Kingdom
I`m not clever enough to comment on all this stuff, but just wanted to say ...Welcome to the forums deklar (y)
 
Joined
Jan 29, 2018
Messages
423
Reaction score
321
Location
SE. London/N.Kent. UK
Hardiness Zone
8
Country
United Kingdom
Welcome to the forum.

As I am not familiar with soil and growing conditions etc in the US. Might I ask. Have you actually attempted to find out if something is forcing it's way up. There are of course ground/soil dwellers that do push up mounds of subsoil Worms, moles and other creatures. Please have a look at the link. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/08/180801131607.htm

Best wishes.
 

Ask a Question

Want to reply to this thread or ask your own question?

You'll need to choose a username for the site, which only take a couple of moments. After that, you can post your question and our members will help you out.

Ask a Question

Members online

No members online now.

Forum statistics

Threads
26,794
Messages
258,343
Members
13,343
Latest member
rbissoon29

Latest Threads

Top