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Message: [QUOTE="Marck, post: 223150, member: 15114"] Another great option for gardens in southern California, and the most drought-tolerant one, is to plant California native plants. There is a wide variety of interesting shrubs and perennials native to the chaparral and coastal scrub in San Diego, and many more from Mexico and the rest of southern California. Yes. some of them are succulents too, but most are not. If the main reason you dislike succulents is the spines and thorns, you might just avoid the spiny ones, like[I] Agave[/I] and cacti. [/QUOTE]