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Message: [QUOTE="Oliver Buckle, post: 230052, member: 12649"] Thanks for the reply, partly I asked because they are exotic beans, not my normal 'runners', and actually look quite different on the packet. I normally grow runner beans in cardboard tubes and plant out 9" apart, never tried putting so many together, though I do give them a trench full of compost, so there could well be enough moisture and nutrition. I shall get out there today and plant them, though I am not sure 'Historically' counts in a way. Watching Chris Packham on Spring Watch the other day he was comparing historical and present day studies and it seems Spring has moved back considerably, things are happening a full month earlier than they did in the late 1940's early 1950's. It seems I can get these red beans here in what looks like an identical packet, so if they don't work I can always try again next year :) Thanks again. [/QUOTE]