Pine Needle Soda questions!

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So first, off thanks for your support and reading and replying to my thread. Also this is related to my other question on pine needle identification and which are edible and not. That question helped spawn this question. HOWEVER, I didn't know about this idea when I posted that other question.

So they have this natural drink called pine needle soda that people back in the hills used to make. Its actually pretty interesting as a concept. But there's 2 things you have to remember about it; 1) you need to make sure only edible types of pine needles safe for people go into it. You aren't supposed to use red pine needles in it. 2) The other thing is when you make it, you must keep it sealed, so that it can't have an alcohol producing reaction. Especially since traditionally kids would make and drink this.

Note 1: I was told not to use red pine needles on this and that historically people said 'red means dead' when using pine needles for stuff. But I don't have confirmation on this idea. And when red pine needles came up the other day, some people thought you could use red pine needles for tea. So ... something is unclear there on red pine needles. Or maybe their amounts have to be precise?

Here are 2 links to 2 people making pine needle soda. After the links I'll post my question;




So when I listened to this and read this. It seemed very interesting. Partly because as the economy continues to retract and experience shrinkage people are looking for ways to fix their shortfalls where they used to buy things. But we can make things ourselves. Especially when you see all the shady things that these big megacorporations are putting into our food you realize we're more safe learning and doing on our own than trusting people that don't care about us.

Question 1; one of the comments on these videos said that he thinks that it makes like a bit less than 2% alcohol in the mix when you make this. BUT the lids are sealed. And another commentator said that if the lids are sealed then its like making root beer. And root beer isn't alcoholic. Plus, they say beer sits and ferments much longer than 2 or 3 days to make this. I wanted to see what you thought about this. I don't want to drink alcohol drinks even if its a small amount. I would think that because its sealed there's no alcohol content, but what do you think?

Question 2; Have any of you tried this and I thought I'd check to make sure which pine needle types are safe to use on this? In the videos they specifically stated using white pines or eastern white pines with this. But it does seem... safer to be careful and verify the information. I thought also that posing questions about this with people who have strong plant knowledge (gardeners) would be better than to just ask some keyboard warriors on the internet that don't have any knowledge of plants.

Well, I hope also this post will also encourage some of the rest of you that our gardening knowledge can branch out into other areas of knowledge that can reap benefits.
 

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Interesting, but I don't know the answers to your questions, except I haven't tried it.
 

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I know about it but have never personally made it. I have made a ton of alcohol of every kind and made with everything imaginable (I no longer drink 🎉) so I can assure you it would be impossible to get any significant amount of alcohol from a few days brewing. The amount would be so low it would be like watered down mouthwash.

That said, those jars would be like little time bombs after a few days, I'd suggest opening them outside. I didn't watch the video but if you don't burp the jars at least once that's a lot of pressure built up inside.

I'd also suggest doing a little extra research with AI for what kind of pine to use. I'm sure no one on this forum is out to give misleading info, but it is the internet so better to fact check than trust the word of a stranger when it comes to consumption of unfamiliar plants.
 

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I know about it but have never personally made it. I have made a ton of alcohol of every kind and made with everything imaginable (I no longer drink 🎉) so I can assure you it would be impossible to get any significant amount of alcohol from a few days brewing. The amount would be so low it would be like watered down mouthwash.

That said, those jars would be like little time bombs after a few days, I'd suggest opening them outside. I didn't watch the video but if you don't burp the jars at least once that's a lot of pressure built up inside.

I'd also suggest doing a little extra research with AI for what kind of pine to use. I'm sure no one on this forum is out to give misleading info, but it is the internet so better to fact check than trust the word of a stranger when it comes to consumption of unfamiliar plants.
Wow. Thank you very much. I think your comment gave me some ideas on what to do next. I wouldn't have gotten through it without your help.
 

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I have a common weed in my yard called Pennywort AKA Dollarweed. You can blend it up in a blender, with water, to make a into a refreshing drink.



 

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I have a common weed in my yard called Pennywort AKA Dollarweed. You can blend it up in a blender, with water, to make a into a refreshing drink.




Have to be careful though.


Dollarweed (Pennywort) vs. Poisonous Look-Alikes

  • Edible plant:
    Dollarweed (Hydrocotyle umbellata), also called pennywort, is edible. It has shiny, round, umbrella-like leaves with the stem attached to the center of the leaf. It grows low to the ground, often in damp soil or lawns. Safe pennywort can be eaten raw, cooked, or juiced. It contains vitamins A, C, K, B-vitamins, plus minerals like calcium, potassium, magnesium, and iron.
  • Toxic look-alikes:
    1. Marsh pennywort (Hydrocotyle ranunculoides) – can be toxic to livestock and cause digestive upset if eaten by humans.
    2. Creeping buttercup (Ranunculus repens) – sometimes mistaken for dollarweed; contains compounds that can blister the mouth and throat, cause nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, and in large amounts, more serious poisoning.
    3. Liverworts and some water pennywort species – may grow in similar damp conditions but are not considered edible and can cause stomach upset.
  • Key tip:
    Safe dollarweed always has a round, lily-pad-like leaf with the stem in the center. Toxic look-alikes usually have the stem coming from the edge of the leaf or leaves that are more lobed/serrated.
  • If consumed by mistake:
    Toxic look-alikes may cause burning in the mouth, stomach pain, nausea, vomiting, or diarrhea. In severe cases (large ingestion), they could lead to dehydration or more serious toxicity, especially in children or pets.
 

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