Need ideas of what to do in this area of my backyard


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I'm struggling to come up with ideas of what to do in this specific area of my backyard in between the wall and a paved area, was going to plant some wildflowers mix but that seems a bit boring...
I was thinking-wanting of some sort of mansory in the middle, something that resembles or serves as a table when needed, then plant some flowers around it... (ALL IDEAS ARE WELCOME, I'm not to creative when it comes to gardening).
I'll share some pictures so you can have some visuals (those measurements are inches), I'm no expert but i just did that tree circle (not a circle) following a YouTube tutorial, I'm thinking of doing something similar for that other tree that follows the area being questioned.
I also added additional pictures so you can see how much sun light I get in there area at around 1pm.
Btw, I'm trying to do it myself, gardeners are expensive in my area.
Thank you in advance!
 

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Definitely look into some native species that would do well in those conditions.
 
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Definitely look into some native species that would do well in those conditions.
Can you please articulate a bit more? I'd like an idea for a set up, perhaps like a low structure, even if I have to change the flowers or plants every year as long as I don't have to re condition the area. Hope that makes sense and Thank you for the reply
 
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Talk with a local nursery person that is familiar with your area. You didn’t mention your part of the country, shade, full sun, etc. A daisy and an impatient have very different needs. You might be best to start with large planters to explore your planting desires. Wildflowers tend to look weedy most of the year if you are not an experienced gardener. Try starting with a mix of annuals and perennials that suit your local conditions. Good luck whatever you decide.
 
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Hello @Bpaps and welcome. The first thing to do there is sort out some good soil. Whatever you decide to grow will need some good earth to grow in.
Our conditions here in England are probably very different to yours, and so it is difficult to come up with any good ideas for you. You don`t even mention what area you live in and the USA is a big place - I expect one state/county is quite different to the next. Can you give us bit more information to go on ?
 
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Hello @Bpaps and welcome. The first thing to do there is sort out some good soil. Whatever you decide to grow will need some good earth to grow in.
Our conditions here in England are probably very different to yours, and so it is difficult to come up with any good ideas for you. You don`t even mention what area you live in and the USA is a big place - I expect one state/county is quite different to the next. Can you give us bit more information to go on ?
Thank you all for your replies, I live in northern New Jersey. The pictures of the grass were taken at around 1 pm a week ago. That part of the yard does not get much sun but in the morning, the rest of the yard gets sun at least 7- 8 hours a day.
I get that plants would need good soil which I don't have much in that area, the contractor building the wall dump a lot of rocks and cement there, not impossible to work on bit very hard, which is why I was thinking of placing or building a structure there, something that looks nice. Not too high, something that may serve as a table or to place some pots on top of it. Also was thinking of buying to big pots and putting it on each side of whatever we come with to place in the middle of that area lol.
So I'm not limited to garden, at one point was also thinking of filling it with medium rocks. But it gets really messy in spring and fall and cleaning the area may become an issue
 
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Are you wanting to plant something different every year there like a annual? Or just have it keep coming back every year like a perennial?

Annuals. If you plant impatience there it would be beautiful, they don't like alot of sun. Fuschia is another one that loves shade.

Perennials -Salvia, Holly hocks like shade. They do get tall. If you are looking for shorter there are ground cover flowers you can do that will look nice around a tall table, garden nurseries have a ton so you can pick any. Hosta,s are a good one. Rhodendron and Azaleas. Ooooo that may be pretty a bush on each side of the table. They flower mostly spring.
 
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Hello all,

I'm struggling to come up with ideas of what to do in this specific area of my backyard in between the wall and a paved area, was going to plant some wildflowers mix but that seems a bit boring...
I was thinking-wanting of some sort of mansory in the middle, something that resembles or serves as a table when needed, then plant some flowers around it... (ALL IDEAS ARE WELCOME, I'm not to creative when it comes to gardening).
I'll share some pictures so you can have some visuals (those measurements are inches), I'm no expert but i just did that tree circle (not a circle) following a YouTube tutorial, I'm thinking of doing something similar for that other tree that follows the area being questioned.
I also added additional pictures so you can see how much sun light I get in there area at around 1pm.
Btw, I'm trying to do it myself, gardeners are expensive in my area.
Thank you in advance!
What are the conditions throughout the day for your planting area: - sun, heat, soil, etc...
 
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Zebra Grass should do well there , nice and ornate medium green with off white vertical stripes . If you have a cat or dog they will love it , and vest part is it's drought tollerant
 
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Zebra Grass should do well there , nice and ornate medium green with off white vertical stripes . If you have a cat or dog they will love it , and vest part is it's drought tollerant
If dogs like that means raccoons may like it too? We have a bunch of them if the area, skunks too. Rather keep them away, they crap all over the place and dig holes in the grass
 
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What are the conditions throughout the day for your planting area: - sun, heat, soil, etc...
Northern NJ, last week was in the 50s this week the 90s, many thunderstorms lately, the winters are cold. Summer is really hot and mostly humid.
The area on the picture barely gets sun but the surrounding area gets blasted all day long, at least during the summer.

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Idk the type of soil, i know there's a significant amount of life rockd in the ground
 
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The skunks are after grubs and night crawlers , and this particular gras is a bit dry and leathery and doesn't really appeal to raccoons wich have no saliva glands . I'm about 6 hrs north of you and have similar pest issues, including deer and the occasional moose or bear .Similar weather too this year , last week we had mid 40's today was 94 .
Peppermint is a decent ground cover and has an odder most mammal type pest find offensive.
 
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It's basically 95% shade that area, would it work?

Probably not then, everything I read says 6-8 hours of sun for grapes. You could probably grow the vine, just wouldn't get much if any fruit. If you like the idea of something vining up the fence just go to your local nursery and explain your situation, including the shade and the pests, and they should be able to help you. That's probably a better approach for any plantings you choose since you'll likely be limited to what's available locally anyway.
 
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Any consideration to putting in a shallow running stream with a couple water plants? Papyrus, etc.
 
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A small stumpery with ferns would look good in a shady corner. A small pond with fountain could fit in.
 
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It's shade but it certainly doesn't look like heavy dark shade. And there's a lot of white vinyl fence bouncing light around in there.

I'd say look into something like a honey berry bush or blue berry bushes. Plant two of either of them about half the distance the plant tag says to plant them. Then under it plant about half a dozen strawberry plants.
 

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