Look what we found....

Joined
Mar 22, 2017
Messages
4,163
Reaction score
3,196
Location
Kent
Country
United Kingdom
My mate was shifting rockery stones, and dropped one - it broke, this is what he found inside....
DSC00006 (2).JPG
DSC00007 (4).JPG
DSC00008 (4).JPG
 
Joined
Mar 22, 2017
Messages
4,163
Reaction score
3,196
Location
Kent
Country
United Kingdom
Nope....not as far as I know. The woman my mate was working for stepped back in horror evidently, and said ''just take it away'' so that`s how it turned up at my place - for my ''weird corner'' he said. I think he meant my stumpery. :rolleyes: The stones were collected from a place in Canterbury somewhere near to the cathedral. There is an indentation on one half of the stone (which is very chalky) that looks like the shape of an amonite (I think that's what they're called)
It may well be a joke. Obviously chalk is very soft and easy to carve .... but I don't think I could do it :confused:
 
Joined
Sep 10, 2014
Messages
2,794
Reaction score
3,987
Location
central Texas
Showcase(s):
1
Country
United States
I want Zigs to weigh in on this--he has vast experience with stone and old churches. he can probably shed some light on your find.
 

zigs

Cactus Grower, Kent.
Moderator
Joined
Oct 10, 2012
Messages
9,698
Reaction score
11,534
Location
Kent
Hardiness Zone
9a
Country
United Kingdom
Blimey...

It reminds me of prehistoric carvings of fertility gods/goddesses but if it were carved, how did it get back within the stone?

Organic matter such as sponges and sea urchins are usually replaced by either silica (flint) or travertine (calcite)

That doesn't look like either....

Any chance of a pic of the other side of the broken stone @Tetters ?
 

zigs

Cactus Grower, Kent.
Moderator
Joined
Oct 10, 2012
Messages
9,698
Reaction score
11,534
Location
Kent
Hardiness Zone
9a
Country
United Kingdom
Aah, those pics are useful (y)

It's a worked bit of masonry. The first pic shows a recess that would have taken an iron or lead masonry clamp to fix it to the next stone.

At some stage it got broken, you can see it's not a perfect fit and there's a bit of weathering on the break.

Then someone decided to carve the figure and in all probability it was put back together and used in the building.

It's probably a form of ritual protection, this was quite common in buildings, dark spaces had to be protected against evil spirits. Masons would carve things never intended to be seen by anyone, i've come across an elaborate cat's head corbel that was supporting the main beam on a church tower.

Only folk working on the church would ever get to see it.

Other offerings were shoes, mummified animals and used items such as spoons and clothes.

It's worth a lot of money to the right collector :)
 
Joined
Mar 22, 2017
Messages
4,163
Reaction score
3,196
Location
Kent
Country
United Kingdom
Thank you for sharing your expertise zigs. I think it can stay here with me - not much chance of the 'fertility magic' being a problem here, :whistle: and a bit of protection would be useful. (y)
 

zigs

Cactus Grower, Kent.
Moderator
Joined
Oct 10, 2012
Messages
9,698
Reaction score
11,534
Location
Kent
Hardiness Zone
9a
Country
United Kingdom
:D No worries :)

Local small finds curator might be interested

https://finds.org.uk/

Might be able to confirm or deny my thoughts on it (y)

Part of my college course covered ritual protection, if you want to protect any dark spaces in your home, you need something personal to your family to conceal.

Masons might have been building churches for the Christians, but they still gave a nod to the old gods, hence the green men you find in churches. There's only one named one as far as I know, Silvanus - Roman God of the forest.

I was working on Francis Drake's old gaff down near Plymouth and I found several carved into the wood work, i'll get some pics of some when I can get my puter to recognise my camera again :rolleyes:
 

Ask a Question

Want to reply to this thread or ask your own question?

You'll need to choose a username for the site, which only take a couple of moments. After that, you can post your question and our members will help you out.

Ask a Question

Members online

Forum statistics

Threads
26,781
Messages
258,267
Members
13,345
Latest member
jewleryfactory

Latest Threads

Top