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Message: [QUOTE="Flatlander, post: 141335, member: 6063"] [USER=4658]@alp[/USER] they run east to west and are in full to semi shade. As Bartzella are Itoh hybrids, they can sometimes be difficult to grow. At least, according to what I was told last year. The trick seems to be have plenty organic material in the soil. I used the shredded remains of the stumps of 11 pies, firs and other coniferous trees to boost the soil. Leaving everything 12 months to decompose/eliminate possible toxins before planting. If I use feed, its always a low nitrogen one, applied once only in late winter/early Spring. Rose fertiliser seems to work well. Although my soil is generally alkaline, probably due in part to adding the coniferous shreddings, its slightly acidic just where they are. I try to keep it tht way by adding peat. [/QUOTE]