Cucumber problem

[Foxy]

Hello everyone, I live in southern Phillippines and the soil here has been burnt and the locals burn all leaf litter and never compost anything so the soil is depleted.

I have a problem growing almost everything but today its my cucumbers. Stunted growth and crinkled leaves so I am wondering if someone can help. I have put a pic here so thanks in advance.

 

[DirtMechanic]

That reminds me of herbicide damage. What fertilizer or compost did you use? Manure?

 

[Foxy]

Thanks for the reply, I gave it a drink of well rotted chicken manure tea yesterday but that's all I have given it. Even my tomarto plants get damage and I'm lucky if i get them up.
It's frustrating as there are no resources here, cant buy anything for soil amendment and nowhere to have soil testing but I guess that's part of the fun of working it out.

 

[DirtMechanic]

Thanks for the reply, I gave it a drink of well rotted chicken manure tea yesterday but that's all I have given it. Even my tomarto plants get damage and I'm lucky if i get them up.
It's frustrating as there are no resources here, cant buy anything for soil amendment and nowhere to have soil testing but I guess that's part of the fun of working it out.

Before you started planting, did you prepare the soil in any way? Did you add manure or compost for example?

 

[Foxy]

Just some rice husk, semi composted, there is not much top soil and it's hard pan so I added rice husk to loosen the soil.

 

[DirtMechanic]

Just some rice husk, semi composted, there is not much top soil and it's hard pan so I added rice husk to loosen the soil.

And where did this (unknown to me) rice husk come from? A local farm? And by the way you are making me think this is glyophosate damage at this point. It has to do with a techinique of using the herbicide to dissicate grains such as rice for easier harvesting. There may be another chemical, but glyophosate has been used to this purpose.

 

[Foxy]

You may be right but the farmers here are very poor, that doesn't mean they dont use it, I have some seedlings started so I will transfer them into some husk mixture and see what happens.

 

[DirtMechanic]

Your post strengthens my inclination, as very poor farmers will find a chemical improves their profit as opposed to paying a worker.

 

[Foxy]

Your right, I will do some testing and see if your on the right track. If your right and I'm thinking you probably are that has saved me as I have 200 sq meters that I am leveling out for new garden beds and I was going to condition my soilwith the composted husk.
Will the glyophosate break down in some time as I have about a cubic meter composting, I will have to do some reading.

 

[DirtMechanic]

Your right, I will do some testing and see if your on the right track. If your right and I'm thinking you probably are that has saved me as I have 200 sq meters that I am leveling out for new garden beds and I was going to condition my soilwith the composted husk.
Will the glyophosate break down in some time as I have about a cubic meter composting, I will have to do some reading.

Yes and fast. Oxidation is the key, but unturned compost is the same as storing a chemical in a bottle.

 

[Foxy]

So better to spread and turn it often?

 

[DirtMechanic]

So better to spread and turn it often?

Prove it is poison and never use it takes a few bean or pea seeds. That shit kills all life including the bacteria in your gut. But you do you bro.

 

[Foxy]

So better to just dump it and not use it at all.

 

[Foxy]

I will run some test, when i have my results i will get back to you and let you know. But thanks for all your help its much appreciated.

 

[DirtMechanic]

I will run some test, when i have my results i will get back to you and let you know. But thanks for all your help its much appreciated.

They use chemicals which swell the tubes and vessels and starve everything. This cuts off moisture and is excellent for preparing a dry grain for mold free storage. They are hormones and kill a lot of biota that are plantlike as well. Of course this kills the building blocks of further development of any hope you have of self sustaining fertile soil. Its a specific poison basically, used by those who have a job to do, feeding people. It is a hard one bro, but steer away from it for quite some years.