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Message: [QUOTE="Chuck, post: 58868, member: 944"] Clay in and of itself isn't necessarily bad. Most clay type soils have a lot of needed minerals in them. What they don't have is a lot of organic material and you will need quite a bit to have a good garden. You said two shovels of dirt until you hit the clay. To me that means over a foot of topsoil and many of us don't even have that. A flower garden will grow very well in that much soil but to make it really good all you have to do is to incorporate a good compost into the soil. Dig as deep as you can, even into the clay and with your shovel turn the soil over and mix a LOT of compost into it. At this time also incorporate a good organic fertilizer and water the bed thoroughly. Next, after it has somewhat dried out on top break up any large clods and rake it smooth. Next, plant your seeds or transplants. When large enough place the mulch around the plants [/QUOTE]