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Message: [QUOTE="oneeye, post: 185881, member: 8968"] I have noticed in the past that taking cuttings at different places on the plant will often cause the issue you are talking about. The same goes with plant vigor or growth rate too. Some cuttings have more vigor from the location of the cutting and where their cuts have been taken. It seems that cuttings off the top are more productive and faster growers than cuttings taken off the bottom or secondary limbs. In the end all the berries are the same off the different plants that were cloned from one. [/QUOTE]